Liveblog:
Braintrust test
Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:36 AM by Dave Winer ☮.
  • davewiner: Yes it does still work.
  • davewiner: Just checking to see if this still works.
  • davewiner: That last item is the idea.
  • davewiner: It’s the obvious next step. They’ve established a strong standard for a new kind of communication. If I were doing a new product that supported these kinds of hooks, I’d want it to be 100 percent compatible with Slack, so it could “run” the same software.
  • davewiner: The other half is implementing the Slack side of both these interfaces, so one can create Slack-compatible environments.
  • davewiner: Outgoing: Posts from the <#C08R9ULLT> channel show up on .
  • davewiner: Incoming: The connection from Radio3 to Slack, so my links show up in <#C051X484P>.
  • davewiner: I had an idea. I’ve implemented both kinds of webhooks for Slack now, incoming and outgoing.
  • davewiner: I started a fresh post for a new week in the braintrust.
  • davewiner: Scratch that, it did make it into the liveblog. It just took Slack a long time to get around to calling the webhook.
  • davewiner: For some reason my message didn’t make it into the liveblog.
  • davewiner: Another week in the braintrust.
  • davewiner: Mets win
  • davewiner: More runs. 12-3
  • davewiner: Now the Mets are rubbing it in.
  • ted: I’ve apparently trained myself to try to scroll on everything
  • ted: I’m not saying that’s a good thing
  • ted: hmm… I have the default scroll settings on my Mac which means I almost never see scroll bars
  • davewiner: there wasn’t a scroll bar there, now there is
  • davewiner: weird ux
  • ted: scroll down
  • davewiner: So I see the plays for the 1st inning. How to get to the third?
  • davewiner: I see
  • davewiner: E.g. Murphy got a single, Uribe walked, Johnson doubled scoring both.
  • davewiner: Tell me how the Mets scored their 9 runs
  • ted: right hand side, click plays
  • davewiner: That’s not play-by-play.
  • ted: Is that not this?
  • davewiner: heh
  • davewiner: 9-3
  • davewiner: Score is 8-3
  • davewiner: I looked away for a couple of minutes and the Mets scored two more runs.
  • chuck: ah.
  • davewiner: but he’s had two doubles
  • davewiner: solo home run
  • davewiner: no no
  • chuck: bases loaded homer?
  • davewiner: Kelly Johnson drove in 3 runs
  • davewiner: 7-3 Mets up
  • davewiner: home run!
  • davewiner: burning in a new version of river4
  • davewiner: i’m watching the game on my computer
  • jeremyzilar: trying to find it
  • jeremyzilar: does the play by play in text form.... there is a super buried link here
  • chuck: yep
  • davewiner: assholes
  • davewiner: aha
  • chuck: they want you in the parks or watching tv
  • davewiner: It’s the game we went to on Tuesday.
  • chuck: I think MLB crawls up the ass of people who try to do that in real time. They claim to own the stats produced by MLB games, so it makes it problematic to report on them in real time if they don’t want you to.
  • chuck: That’s after the fact right?
  • davewiner:
  • davewiner: Just found it.
  • davewiner: Wait a minute
  • davewiner: They’re winning 6-3 in the 5th inning. But how did they score the runs? No clue.
  • davewiner: The Mets are playing right now, a rare weekday day game.
  • davewiner: Here’s something that doesn’t seem to exist. A site that has the play-by-play for current MLB games.
  • chuck: no reason you can’t run 2 of these streams, one for copy and one for media assets
  • jeremyzilar: Like, if I am live blogging a baseball game, and I post to instagram with the <#C08R9ULLT> hashtag, it would be great to pull that photo into the live blog. For that matter, if I post to Twitter or Facebook and use that hashtag, it would be great to pull in those tweets or Facebook posts.
  • jeremyzilar: outside of e-mail, it would be great to pull in all photos from a user using a hashtag.
  • jeremyzilar: E-mail (on iPhone at least) is the only background connection that will reliably keep trying to send, regardless of the fact that you may be going in and out of signal range. In a breaking new situation, you want the peace of mind to know that the item you sent will be sent the next time it is possible.
  • jeremyzilar: The most reliable way for someone on the ground (like a reporter) to get a photo back to the newsroom is to e-mail it from their phone
  • jeremyzilar: So if I were at an event, and I were one of your live bloggers, you'd also want an automated way to pull in photos — _fast_.
  • davewiner: It could even be something the reader could do.
  • davewiner: Sure that makes sense.
  • chuck: Dave, I wasn’t thinking about it just from a chat transcript perspective. As an editor who might be preparing a more structured presentation of some recorded dialog, having to do it “upside down” is challenging. It might be interesting to have the option to just invert the whole outline after it is recorded.
  • ted: I have no idea
  • davewiner: Ted there was a movie I think where “turn that frown upside down” was a big line. Can’t think of it. Can you?
  • davewiner: If you're a patient it's super important to connect with the staff at the doctor's office on a personal level.
  • davewiner: Old style phones could be cradled betw shoulder and ear so you could type while talking. No can do with cell phone.
  • davewiner: heh :wink:
  • ted: turn that frown upside down! :grinning:
  • davewiner: everyone’s a critic :disappointed:
  • ted: bummer
  • davewiner: My software isn’t watching for edits.
  • davewiner: Ted, it won't
  • ted: lets see if I can edit something and have it propagate. I’ll wait for this to appear on liveblog
  • davewiner: You know the Mets are playing a day game today. I’m thinking about playing hooky. :wink:
  • davewiner: JZ, what a beautiful day in NY.
  • davewiner: BTW, did you know you can edit what you post to slack after the fact? I have to look to see if there is a webhook for that (I bet there is).
  • davewiner: Chat transcripts are nothing new. There probably already are lots of ways of getting Slack to do them? If not, geez, maybe I should just go straight to that. I can’t imagine they don’t have it.
  • davewiner: Just getting started here..
  • davewiner: Chuck, I don’t know.
  • chuck: Will you have an option to have it spool out in chronological order, too? That’s probably easier to read after the fact, while reverse is easier to read in real time